2015 in the Snow?
#21
Senior Member
Yes pulling a load is one of the rare scenarios where there are strong advantages to having a heavier vehicle. No way around that one I don't think.
OTOH towing heavy loads with increasingly light trucks is something that has been compensated for by new tow technologies like load balancing and stability controls.
OTOH towing heavy loads with increasingly light trucks is something that has been compensated for by new tow technologies like load balancing and stability controls.
#22
Senior Member
I hate reading winter driving threads from people who don't have proper, snow and ice rated winter tires. I wouldn't drive without them, it might be okay down south but up here in Canada you need them. The difference they make is too much to ignore.
Weight in the bed of the truck (sand bags, logs, snow ect) and some good winter tires and winter driving is no problem. I'm a firm supporter of studded tires as well but they're illegal in some states and other places so if you can't get them, that's okay. They make a huge difference on ice though.
Weight in the bed of the truck (sand bags, logs, snow ect) and some good winter tires and winter driving is no problem. I'm a firm supporter of studded tires as well but they're illegal in some states and other places so if you can't get them, that's okay. They make a huge difference on ice though.
#23
Senior Member
I hate reading winter driving threads from people who don't have proper, snow and ice rated winter tires. I wouldn't drive without them, it might be okay down south but up here in Canada you need them. The difference they make is too much to ignore.
Weight in the bed of the truck (sand bags, logs, snow ect) and some good winter tires and winter driving is no problem. I'm a firm supporter of studded tires as well but they're illegal in some states and other places so if you can't get them, that's okay. They make a huge difference on ice though.
Weight in the bed of the truck (sand bags, logs, snow ect) and some good winter tires and winter driving is no problem. I'm a firm supporter of studded tires as well but they're illegal in some states and other places so if you can't get them, that's okay. They make a huge difference on ice though.
Agreed on the studded tires. We can use them here in the People's Republic of New York. Fact is, There are no guarantees on ice, but studs make all the difference
#24
LONE STAR
Exactly. I love reading how people compare the winter driving performance of their car vs. their truck. Wow......my Ford Escape gets better gas mileage than my F150......lol
I have winter tires and I put weight in the back of my 2WD F150 and it's excellent in the snow.
I have winter tires and I put weight in the back of my 2WD F150 and it's excellent in the snow.
I hate reading winter driving threads from people who don't have proper, snow and ice rated winter tires. I wouldn't drive without them, it might be okay down south but up here in Canada you need them. The difference they make is too much to ignore.
Weight in the bed of the truck (sand bags, logs, snow ect) and some good winter tires and winter driving is no problem. I'm a firm supporter of studded tires as well but they're illegal in some states and other places so if you can't get them, that's okay. They make a huge difference on ice though.
Weight in the bed of the truck (sand bags, logs, snow ect) and some good winter tires and winter driving is no problem. I'm a firm supporter of studded tires as well but they're illegal in some states and other places so if you can't get them, that's okay. They make a huge difference on ice though.
#25
Exactly. I love reading how people compare the winter driving performance of their car vs. their truck. Wow......my Ford Escape gets better gas mileage than my F150......lol
I have winter tires and I put weight in the back of my 2WD F150 and it's excellent in the snow.
I have winter tires and I put weight in the back of my 2WD F150 and it's excellent in the snow.
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#28
Senior Member
Let's face it. The weight reduction is great for:
better acceleration
Better mpg
Lower vehicle transport cost
It is not good for towing! How many threads have we seen that says an extra weight of a super duty helps control the weight. Same with snow traction. This is a negative. But honestly, most people here do silly things to these trucks like lower them, or raise them with big tires. These things hurt performance for most areas and only gain it in a limited area. But these folks either never truly use the truck for those purposes or frankly they bought the wrong vehicle to start with....like buying a truck to do desert racing or to go to a drag strip.....
better acceleration
Better mpg
Lower vehicle transport cost
It is not good for towing! How many threads have we seen that says an extra weight of a super duty helps control the weight. Same with snow traction. This is a negative. But honestly, most people here do silly things to these trucks like lower them, or raise them with big tires. These things hurt performance for most areas and only gain it in a limited area. But these folks either never truly use the truck for those purposes or frankly they bought the wrong vehicle to start with....like buying a truck to do desert racing or to go to a drag strip.....
#29
That's why they make the body panels on semis out of 1/4" steel, the heavier they are, the better they are for towing !
#30
Senior Member
Quite a different principle. But thanks for playing.